carmina vs meermin sizing
Customers complain that the Meermin shoes are often poorly finished. It could be far more expensive than the cost of a single pair if theyre so much more comfortable as they are for you as it would make it harder to wear the shoes are own currently. Decent fit all around and should break in nicely. I wear chup socks with all of my shoes and boots these days, but for some of these I wore Darn Tough crew light or Darn Tough cushioned boot socks. Like the arbitrary claim that the soles on English soles wear out more quickly than European ones. Good point Ben, Im not sure. Interesting to hear you sized up for Simpson when based on your description above you Could probably have stayed on an 8. Honest , relevant and informative. And the soles are much more flexible too, more similar to a Blake stitched shoe than a Goodyear welted one. High Top vs Low Top Boxing Shoes: Which Is Best for You? Do you guys size down or buy your standard Carmina size? Where C&J excels is in the breath of their offering, but the overall quality wouldnt differ significantly between the two. Because every Carmina thread is comprised of "what size am I" questions. Bought before I understood my size. Are there other difference? Fugashin is similar: the two are competitors in Vietnam. My favorite last for standing long periods. Please take a look. For a RTW offering, without additional charge, that is a massive advantage for anyone wary of shelling out for MTM alternatives, and I would have expected something worth telling readers. Our featured affiliate vendor of the week is a brand new affiliate vendor, the artisan Bespoke Shoemaker Szuba. The shoes might look good on the feet, but if you pick them up and look closer, youll notice little errors. That said, something in the post did strike me negatively, on a subject I previously had been puzzled about: appraisal of Allen Edmonds. Sendra has its own brand as well as making for others, which is a little more expensive than Berwick or Meermin. Im happy I earn enough now to not care about this market segment any longer. Break-in was tough. Carmina Shoes - Definitive Thread (reviews, advice, sizing, etc) - official thread. For the price, Meermins are actually really good shoes.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'footslide_com-leader-2','ezslot_16',118,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-leader-2-0'); In the long run, Carmina shoes are better shoes than Meermins. Viberg 2030E 9: Specifically for the Halketts which have a trimmed waist and slight pattern changes these are okay in a half size up with boot socks. With Carmina you can get a more refined shoe - closed-channel stitching, a more bevelled waist and so on. For example, I dont really care about super fine handwork on a shirt. A couple of corrections on your US list Simon. It depends what else you have of course, but a dark brown or slimmer overall look is more likely to be more useful,.and certainly better for suits. Viberg 1035 8.5: Its a great looking last, heel is massive. Please use this thread to list your sizing in various lasts compared to your Brannock size. And nice finishing and detailing as you mentioned. It may not display this or other websites correctly. They're also very flexible to work with. Meermin shoes are affordable but also very sturdy and premium-grade. Merrell Vapor Glove: 10D, no issues since there's barely any structure. I have covered Vass and TLB Artista before. all have factory shops if you are looking for a classic style but at a price closer to a discounted Loake. Carminas are more expensive than Meermins. From time to time you find great deals for +/- USD 600. Interesting that not many people would know that though. and a pair of natural CXL beefrolls were very loose I could slide right out of them. As someone who has handled or owned several of these brands I thought it would be helpful to offer my experience, anecdotal though it may be. There are some good value pick ups in this range, especially when youre figuring out what you like and dont like and building up your wardrobe slowly over time.. Nice, good to hear your experience Taylor, thanks. 55 last 9.5E: Excellent fit with thick or thin socks, this is what boot heaven feels like! Id also echo other comments that a trip to the factory outlet shops in Northampton is well worth it. Well start with three Swedish ones, all making in Spain or Portugal. They didn't gave Detroit EEE in stock so I couldn't try it. Thanks for the response. I shouldn't have slept on it), Monitaly Shawl Field Jacket - Black Herringbone 38, The unofficial NMWA Buy/Sell Thread (a.k.a. 8.5D may have worked with thinner socks. or to put it another more childish way, you started it! So yes, you get more durable suede shoes higher up in the price ranges. 2. So, in summary, if you look at the price, most of Carmina's shoes cost 329 or 395 or $475, and for that amount of money, the range of last you get is quite good. Its just not possible.. This is the next level down of Spanish brands, more on a par with the Swedish start-ups in terms of quality, but much bigger organisations. Plain black Oxfords from Churchs who are near the rail station. Barrie: 10D (I might be able to pull 9.5 with thin socks), 9.5 E, Tuesday split toe boots (no last name): 9.5, Borneo: 42 EU (snug fit with plenty room for toe to wiggle with medium socks), Kujang: 42.5 EU (snug fit with medium socks), 325: 9.5 UK (had to re-purchase just to recall my size), 365: 9 UK (snug with medium socks, would probably be clown looking if I went 9.5, but who knows), Military: 44 EU (had to throw thick socks for this, but no way I could pull 43, the weirdest fitting last Ive ever had), 4497: 9.5 UK fitting 6 (could probably pull 9 UK or same size but 5 fitting instead), 2020: 9.5 (with medium socks it fit snug). Nick horween has spoken at length about this, so shell cordovan chromexcel etc are technically corrected grain. Ive gradually moved more towards the Handgrade products, though not entirely, as the range of styles is more limited. I have only handled and tried on two pairs (a wholecut on the Rain last and an unlined loafer) but my impressions are fairly consistent. When I was measured at Alden Madison and an AE store, both actually said I should lean toward 10D TTS, due to my flat feet and low instep, which led to many bad purchases. Well Id imagine the aim is to make more money, given that some will know the Cleverley name and want to buy into it. And that at the end of the day, I would be better off saving on a getting an additional major item a year of fine quality rather than getting a 30th shirt that I dont really need. Yes literally hard as rock but very nice looking in their box.. Agree Alan, buyer beware that they are extremely hard to break in. Im a scrooge but think this is crucial to include in your mental budget. Were the shoes more structured I would go with 9.5D. I think one point that was briefly touched on but very important is that the different brands price point will be really different depending where you are. I have had a painted patina on several shoes see Berluti here, Dandy here, Carreducker here and G&G here. Rock Your Socks- show your sock, shoe & pant combos, *DROP 3/1* NWT $240 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Navy Linen & Mulberry Silk Twill Neck Tie, * DROP 3/1 * NWT $225 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Square Knit Solid Black Silk Neck Tie, R.M.Williams Comfort Craftsman Tobacco Suede UK 8.5 H. OGIO Golf Travel Bags The Royal Experience! The subreddit about quality footwear. Sounds like a nice choice of shoes. Leather board can, and top-end shoes use pure leather, which adapts even more. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Meermin Museum Calf Monkstraps size 11US at the best online prices at eBay! the Meermins have four speedhooks and a pull tab, whereas the Carminas have three and forego the tab. Its probably confirmation bias but I do think they are good value especially with their very regular sales. These should fit TTS for people with higher arches but this last is definitely not for me. I appreciate that it takes time and skill and thus affects cost, it just doesnt matter a ton to me as it doesnt have a meaningful effect on how the shirt wears or looks. At least in the States, TLB comes in less expensive than C&J even after the customization upcharge and even if you select the higher-quality Artista line. Thats generally why so many people, or at least readers, like shoes from these other brands. Its actually something well touch on in our upcoming piece looking at budgets and capsule wardrobes. Jesper's information was based on information by two Carmina retailers. Brilliant. It is good with athletic socks. The next level of price is below 250. Rock Your Socks- show your sock, shoe & pant combos, *DROP 3/1* NWT $240 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Navy Linen & Mulberry Silk Twill Neck Tie, * DROP 3/1 * NWT $225 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Square Knit Solid Black Silk Neck Tie, R.M.Williams Comfort Craftsman Tobacco Suede UK 8.5 H. OGIO Golf Travel Bags The Royal Experience! Foot extends past footbed on sides, narrow waist causes some bowing. Im not the only one. For each last, add any thoughts on fit, including ankle/shaft fit for boots. Styleforum is supported in part by commission earning affiliate links sitewide. p.s. As you mentioned, the C&J sole is flat and not very detailed, but the leather is thick but very supple and significantly more comfortable than any other shoe I have over the course of the day. Additionally the soles of Cheaney arent as hard wearing either, I have needed more frequent resoles. I beg to disagree. Feel free to include any additional information about your feet, such as: Specific circumferential measurements (as requested by Bakers, Russell Moccasin, etc). Steve. I just read on an Spanish forum that Meermin and Carmina used to buy together batches of leather from the same place. Meermin Burgundy Oxford Shoe || Men's US 8 UK 7 E. $50.00 + $32.48 shipping. Trickers 4497s: 8.5 is a little too short, while 9 feels too big in most pairs. I normally wear medium weight socks from Darn Tough and Wigwam unless otherwise specified. I own a pair of JL Lopez loafers (995) and a pair of Cheaney Lewisham (380) and with the exception of the fact that JL claim a hand stitched apron, I cant see any qualitative difference whatsoever. Noel: That was the point I was trying to make, when I wrote: whats my experience, and I know for many others as well who have good bespoke shoes, is that the experience of wearing them, with the snug comfortable fit, excellent arch support etc, widely triumph wearing RTW/MTO Goodyear welted shoes. I think calling things cost-effective when you just mean cheaper would be a needless euphemism. In terms of quality, yes Trickers will be better and worth the money I think. I find that you almost always get what you pay for when it comes to goodyear welted shoes and both of these shoemakers are a big step up from all the budget tier brands I have tried in terms of materials, fit, craftmanship and durability. Lofgren 110: Im aware that its not polite anymore to cherish them, but the Steadfast Chukka in 9.5 is my best fitting shoe ever. Tanks, if you will. I have given up after several wears as the blisters arent worth it. What struck a cord for me is consistency of (most) english manufacturers. I used DT cushioned boot socks at the time. Note: this is for the old China models. Brannock Size: 10D/E with flat feet and extra wide around instep. Probably also worth mentioning the Carlos Santos brand from Portugal in this price bracket. However without the insert there's too much volume so now I'm shopping for a 3/4 insert to toss in them. As been mentioned by Simon, dont see it as a complete list of brands, its just a selection of ones to highlight, theres plenty of good brands not mentioned (and plenty of less good ones as well). My personal thoughts are as follows: Loake As the article suggests, the Loake 1880 is the bare minimum you should go for. I believe shoes like Meermin have a place in Menswear. men's size 6D with my thickest socks; my dream would be a size 5.5 in this last: 6D Meermin Hiro Derby: 4.5: UK: . There arent many industries where youre so often buying direct from the maker, and having little additional costs along the way. Kenton 10D: Great roomy fit for boots with thick/medium socks; good snug fit for LWB with thin socks/sockless. I wonder brands you may recommend for a person with a deeper broader foot like mine. In terms of value I would say CJ handgrade. I think it makes sense for C&J to stick to making shoes and not running shops. Meermin Hiro 8.5E UK: Good fit overall, snug around the ball without being tight and toes are less cramped than I expected with how the last looks. Particularly I struggle with the heel which I find very wide with most English makers. If you also have small heels and struggle to find well fitting good year welt leather shoes, I wholeheartedly recommend Japanese brands who have leather shoes that are specifically designed for the Japanese feet. White's 50/50 9D: This is now one of my best fitting lasts. Makes buying difficult, much like with Vass. Carmina shoes are made with classy Shell Cordovan Leather that is really elegant and unique. Its a company started in 2014 that I discovered today. Viberg 2020 8.5 GYW: Kinda snug, had to stretch out the instep, slightly smaller than the stitchdown version. The soles are more durable, the calf leather takes polish better and ages better, elements of the make lead to extra comfort (as do the materials), the make is finer and so looks better, and so on. Meermin shoes are also very comfortable due to the relaxed feel of their Double Insoles System but they are not as comfortable as the Carmina shoes. But you might want to chat with Carmina first to double-check. C&J E vs. F, does the wider shoe has the same heel fit/width than the smaller one? You must log in or register to reply here. There is decent toe room in spite of how tapered the chisel last looks. Great Stone Alexander 8.5D: Mostly great fit but too much heel slippage. The dress shoes classics hold their own. Cork/insole filling will also compress. In fact at some point I wondered whether you were being protectionist of Northampton makers by apparently shunning AE, but then I could not see anywhere else that could be like you. Hence, vanity wins (maybe). One brand not mentioned were the French company Bexley. As someone with narrow feet, and unable to afford bespoke, this is a major bugbear of mine. It was snug, but not tight, and I could tell that they would fit perfectly once the sole settles. Indeed the leather is really stiff. C&J have been my staple for more than 20 years, and I find that their 348 and 341 last feel like old friend straight our of the box. With its classic and timeless design, this last seems to resist the course of time. For a reasonable upcharge, you can select any of their basic designs and pick your own choice of last, leather, and sole options. Scotch Grain is particularly big and has its own production and stores, as well as being in department stores. Parkhurst 18 Last 9D: Too narrow, should have gone TTS. Crockett & Jones, Churchs, John Lobb, Joseph Cheaney etc. But it fits pretty good and I'd happily buy another pair of 1035. - 8 (very voluminous, though) Carmina- Robert- 8 Carmina- Rain- 8 Carmina- Forest- 8 Carmina- Soller-8 . TLB Artista full review here Jason: Thats a real shame. Definitely wish Viberg made more boots on this last. Loake Jockey last (G-Fit): 7UK fits but a bit roomy on chelsea boots. Really useful local knowledge, thanks David. What I had in mind though was a roundup like this one with Jespers input. Back to Morjas specifically. Its also (if im not mistaken) the only brand that advertises the fact that they use full-grain leather from reputable tanneries on all their shoes (admittedly, based on the price, they probably use the cheaper cuts of leather, but from those tanneries nonetheless). The main concern for me is finding a last shape that fits my high instep and once I find that last I stick with it. Fast worldwide deliveries; 14 day returns; . Being from the UK my first proper pair of shoes at University were a pair of Loake 1880s they were fine and really all I needed at the time. Its a narrow last with a very high instep. ", Spain 1: TLB, Yanko, Septieme Largeur and Andres Sendra. Very few English RTW offer much in the way of narrow lasts. "Another area where a lot of the English makers fall down, at this price level and below, is the soles, which aren't as good as Spanish brands in general. I typically shy away from the lighter browns etc.. and thought this might be a good alternative and could be quite versatile. AE is a company around 100 years old and about thrice Aldens turnover, I always heard that only second to it in quality in the US, so that seemed odd. TLB Mallorca: I own a wingtip on the Alan last. However, a really bright or unsual patina has never really been my style, and is becoming even less so. My issue with C&J is that the range of G fits has been reduced significantly. Check Availability Meermin Wingtips Review Travel Shoes Poll: What shoes do you bring with you on short trips? Nice article , but why the article call these cheap shoes? Rancourt 114 9D: Great fit sometimes. I did have a little heel slip in the beginning that went away. I have, however, experienced considerably worse service at some of the establishments of allegedly higher grade companies, whose products I could easily afford, but whose customer service proved to be a very effective deterrent. Arch might be a little too aggressive for my right foot, but it should break in more. Carmina Simpson Oxford - 10 UK. I agree they provide an excellent service and are great ambassadors for the brand, which is why I think it is clever of them as a company not to be involved in the complexity of rents, leases, employees etc. These insoles are advanced comfort systems that are meant to keep your feet comfy and cozy all day. The big differentiating factor is not business model, but location of manufacture. You always get something more for your money (if you avoid big brands/designers) but the best value-for-money options will nearly always have been selected already by the cheaper brand. #EasyLifeESMenBoots #DopeBoots #Meermin #CarminaBoots #ShellCordovanBoots #EasyLifeES #CasualMenBoots #MereminPlumMuseumCalf #Meerminbelts---ALL UB playlist-. I now have 3 different pairs on that Cheaney last. NWT Pual Smith Linen, Cotton & Silk Blend Neck Tie in Navy w/ White Polka Dots from MR Porter, New w/ Tag $200+ Brioni Italian Made Woven Silk Purple Paisley Neck Tie from Bergdorf Goodman, Vintage Dunhill English Made Black Leather Long Wallet. With thick socks, fits like a snug glove all around on unstructured toe. I have Meermin boots and happy with the quality. Is higher volume though. E.g. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Free shipping for many products! I feel much less tired in my feet after a long day, and if one have a bit problematic feet it will be an even bigger difference.. I found a pair on sale for about $100 more than those, however, so I figured I'd give them a try. It may not display this or other websites correctly. With Skolyx the price is cut down by making a basic shoe, but clean and consistent. Sadly brands like Edward Green, Lobb and Cleverly are now so beyond my price point that I wonder if theyre now in the realm of diminishing returns? Obviously also a difference style of shoe, but those companies spend so much on marketing and sales compared to these makers, that they are inevitably worse value purely from a quality point of view. Ive never understood why they tried to branch out so much. This helped me understand why sizing as 10D was actually very bad advice and never worked out well. Hi Peter yes its something weve talked about regularly, and theres a dedicated page on it here. Porter?). My 20 year old AS are still in great shape as are my relatively newer C&J Though, unsure of sizing, thanks. I have had great buys from Tricker none were country shoes, but one pair had channeled soles, which even at full price would have been a bargain. Hard as rock! I also had disappointing experiences with Myrqvists quality. 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